Posts by Joey Jo-Jo

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Religion or Cult - How to Tell The Difference

by cofty in

i don't believe the question is binary.

all religions are cults its just a matter of degree.. .

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Joey Jo-Jo

lol sorry, forums and Mr Walker dont mix too well. Bye for now

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Religion or Cult - How to Tell The Difference

by cofty in

i don't believe the question is binary.

all religions are cults its just a matter of degree.. .

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Joey Jo-Jo

I edited my post, its not that, something else.

Are you only going to argue about religions that are cults, what about buddhism?

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Marcion, Irenaeus and Tertullian on Paul

by Joey Jo-Jo in

i found this interesting, true or false?.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zk9apowydlq.

Joey Jo-Jo

I found this interesting, true or false?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZK9aPoWyDLQ

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Religion or Cult - How to Tell The Difference

by cofty in

i don't believe the question is binary.

all religions are cults its just a matter of degree.. .

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Joey Jo-Jo

unitarian church...if i am not mistaken, some judaism religions, buddhism

edit: not unitarian, but I have read of some churchs where nobody judges you.

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Religion or Cult - How to Tell The Difference

by cofty in

i don't believe the question is binary.

all religions are cults its just a matter of degree.. .

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Joey Jo-Jo

religion

You believe what you want

You wont be judged

its opened to debate

cult

we shower you with love

then we tell you that anyone that isnt part of the religion (cult) should be cut off

we are right, they are wrong

you are doctrinated to think only positive things about the religion (cult)

group mentality is implemented

we tell you what you should read which his what we write and recommend

doubt is a sign of weakness and bad leading to negative outcomes

if you leave a- family and friends shun you b-friends shun you c-you are killed

we implement phobias such as fear of armageddon and if you leave you will not be brought to heaven and will suffer a painfull death, second life will be of an inferior animal etc.

cofty: I dont like that graft, there isn't much in it. I will say that some religiouns are more a cult than others, e.g. some cults used low protein based diets and lack of sleep. But not all religions are cults.

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Jesus Christ was INVENTED?

by sizemik in

a f/b friend just posted this link .

which makes some interesting claims .

so i thought i'd share.. some here at jwn have an extensive knowledge of early christianity .

Joey Jo-Jo

Joey Jo-Jo: Because this is all we have. Jews believe that this information can be passed on by saying from one generation to another (the truth is not many could speak and read), but as we found out through the dead see scrolls, this information changed.

Since when do the Jews have a monopoly on "truth"? If theirs is the True God, why didn't he lift a finger to help them in the Holocaust? Why hasn't he lifted a finger in the last 2,000 years?

No Jews no Jesus, its simple, read Matthew. I never said that, I actually agree with you, why didn't god help during the holocaust, why didn't Jesus write a book etc.

So, are to believe in psychics and philosophers now?

No, you don't "believe" in philosophers and psychics. You read their works, expand your mind, think for yourself, and formulate your own conclusions. But hey, maybe that's just too much work for you. It's a lot easier to just have someone else tell you what to believe.

Ok, I know understand what you mean, I read Jung and other interesting stuff.

And who invented the zodiacal year? **drums** man! what are we talking about? the same God in the bible? or some other gods?

Um, yes that would be Biblegod.......

Genesis 1:14 And God said, “Let there be lights in the vault of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark sacred times, and days and years... (NIV)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazzaroth

Mazzaroth (Mazarot ?????????, LXX μαζουρωθ) is a hapax legomenon of the Hebrew Bible, found in Job 38:31-32 . The similar word mazalot (??????????) in 2 Kings 23:3-5 may be related.

The word's precise meaning is uncertain [1] but its context is that of astronomical constellations, and it is often interpreted as a term for the zodiac, or the zodiacal constellations as a group. [2]

In Yiddish, the term mazalot came to be used in the sense of "astrology" in general, surviving in the expression "mazel tov," meaning "good luck." [3]

Interesting, I have proven astrology to be false, but weird that its in the bible.

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Jesus Christ was INVENTED?

by sizemik in

a f/b friend just posted this link .

which makes some interesting claims .

so i thought i'd share.. some here at jwn have an extensive knowledge of early christianity .

Joey Jo-Jo

PSacramento wrote I mean that regardless of the view that scholars have about the identity of christ, the resurrection is stil THE event in the NT that makes Christ as bring simply "another teacher/reformer" quite improbable.

I'm sorry?? the messiah dying on a CROSS?? For a Jew its simple, he wasn't.

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Jesus Christ was INVENTED?

by sizemik in

a f/b friend just posted this link .

which makes some interesting claims .

so i thought i'd share.. some here at jwn have an extensive knowledge of early christianity .

Joey Jo-Jo

ProdigalSon wrote Why do so many of you persist in the idea that you can find the truth written down in a book somewhere?

Because this is all we have. Jews believe that this information can be passed on by saying from one generation to another (the truth is not many could speak and read), but as we found out through the dead see scrolls, this information changed.

Or on the Internet? Who taught Pythagoras the things he knew? Or Plato? Or Edgar Cayce? Every myth and every philosopher has been telling us for millennia that all the knowledge is within you somewhere. It's called Gnosis. How else do you explain psychics? Is every single one of them a charlatan? Or are they all getting help from "Satan" to fool us all?

So, are to believe in psychics and philosophers now?

Stop attacking each other over nonsense and accept the fact that you are much much more, in fact infinitely more than what is confined to your physical body and physical brain. You are a mostly unplugged antenna to the Universal Consciousness, but there is every indication that is changing. A Zodiacal Year is 25,920 years long. Half of it is day, half of it is night. We've been in the dark for 13 millennia. Do the math.

And who invented the zodiacal year? **drums** man! what are we talking about? the same God in the bible? or some other gods?

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Jesus Christ was INVENTED?

by sizemik in

a f/b friend just posted this link .

which makes some interesting claims .

so i thought i'd share.. some here at jwn have an extensive knowledge of early christianity .

Joey Jo-Jo

Thanks SA,

But most religions are not of the anti-Christ, most genuily believe to be the true religion and they do this out of good intentions, but letting the bible speake for itself has caused (and will continue to) devisions, also, there are scientific contradictions, letters in the bible that contradict others such as Matthew and Paul, then we have the OT and the latter Talmud that reads about some interesting things of Jesus,etc,etc,etc.

What made me question the bible was the bible itself, I went from Genesis to Joshua, this was my "stumbling block", Why a talking snake and donkey?(allegory or not), why God was such a brute to Moses, Aaron and his son and his tribe?, why the blood and guts? why was God so interested in gold? why did God have traces of being human?,etc

You find it simple, I find it very hard to grasp, and yet what many try to make sense is silent in the bible.

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Jesus Christ was INVENTED?

by sizemik in

a f/b friend just posted this link .

which makes some interesting claims .

so i thought i'd share.. some here at jwn have an extensive knowledge of early christianity .

Joey Jo-Jo

AGuest, why did God do such a terrible job on passing his message? Look at all beliefs and wars, all in the name of God.